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Topic author: Gordon Goldie
Subject: The nineteen minute club
Posted on: 01 Sep 2011 00:09:03
Message:

Arthur Doyle's 19:45 tonight has got me wondering who's all in the nineteen minute club for a 10mile TT in Scotland? Please fill in the missing info?

John Archibald 02/9/18 18:18 CTT Champs Eglinton
Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Kyle Gordon 15/7/18 18:54 FI5 Freuchie
Douglas Watson 10/8/19 18:55 Eglinton
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Jamie Davidson 29/4/18 19:30 CTT Champs Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:37 AY4 Eglinton
Silas Goldsworthy 27/7/13 19:37 Westferry
Ben Peacock 21/8/13 19:38 Fullarton Wh 10 Eglinton
Iain Grant 11/5/14 19:40 Eglinton
David Griffiths 29/4/18 19:41 CTT Champs Westferry
Jim Gladwell 13/8/96 19:42 Regent CC 10 Westferry.
Liam Beaty 29/4/18 19.42 CTT Champs Westferry
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Alan Thomson 15/7/18 19:46 FI5 Freuchie
Chris Smart 21/8/16 19:50 AY4 Eglinton
Carlos Riise 4/5/02 19:54 AY4 Eglinton
Rob Friel 10/6/18 19:54 Cambusbarron
Jon Entwistle 18/8/16 19.55 Dundee Ethiebeaton

Have updated this list from all info received. Anyone else?

Replies:


Reply author: ian sharp
Replied on: 01 Sep 2011 22:20:30
Message:

Graeme Obree actually did 2 19's,the second one,equalling his Scottish Record on West Ferry the same night Sarah Philips and John O'Donovan broke the tandem record.
It was a Couriers event and I was a very chuffed Organiser.


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 07:57:58
Message:

Arthur Doyle's 19:45 tonight has got me wondering who's all in the nineteen minute club for a 10mile TT in Scotland? Please fill in the missing info?

Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Mark Atkinson
Ben Peacock 16/7/11 19.53 Glasgow Wheelers CC 10 Westferry
Jim Gladwell?
Carlos Riise?

Who's missing and do we have info on the others please?


Reply author: The Old Faithful
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 13:10:02
Message:

Did Carlos do a 19 in Scotland?

If not, don't forget Obree's times recorded down south.


Reply author: Langside
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 15:00:50
Message:

Have there been any 19's in Scotland outwith the W. Ferry?


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 19:48:01
Message:

Jason also did an 18:21 on the Levens course, near Kendal.

All of the rides above that I know of were done on Westferry - but I think Jason did a 19 on the undulating A77 course too?

Any more info peeps?


Reply author: craig mcg
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 21:38:31
Message:

if i mind right mark atkinson done a 19 sumthin on blairdrummond in 2004 i think?, west ferry had been cancelled that night and a few riders including mark came over n got a private time trial at stirling, can remember tommy glendinning reading his time and saying that was a good year for beetroot!

craig mcgowan


Reply author: y tin
Replied on: 02 Sep 2011 22:09:19
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]Jason also did an 18:21 on the Levens course, near Kendal.

All of the rides above that I know of were done on Westferry - but I think Jason did a 19 on the undulating A77 course too?

Any more info peeps?



That's right, Jason got a 19'58" on the A77 in 2007. Unbelievable on that course!

>^..^<


Reply author: tcrSD
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 00:26:57
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]Jason also did an 18:21 on the Levens course, near Kendal.

All of the rides above that I know of were done on Westferry - but I think Jason did a 19 on the undulating A77 course too?

Any more info peeps?



I believe it was an 18.12... and the word was he sat up with 100m to go when realised he had missed the then British record - incredible!


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 08:41:32
Message:

Here is a link to the sub 19 min rides in Englandshire, also includes sub 22 for women. Don't know why Scottish rides aren't included, maybe they think we don't go that fast

http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=37186


Reply author: doc
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 10:01:06
Message:

Could be something to do with the CTT only controlling TTs in England and Wales. I'm sure if someone provided them with the info they might consider updating it to a UK wide basis. Scottish riders have to provide their times done in Scotland to the CTT for BAR purposes.


Reply author: Steve McGinty
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 15:12:29
Message:

John O'Donovan did 19'49" in 1992...





...with Sarah Philips on the back of the tandem.




Reply author: n/a
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 16:34:12
Message:

atkinson 19:59 on fife scot champs


Reply author: loudrider
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 17:30:47
Message:

spoke to jim gladwell today.
he rode a 19.41 on 13th august 1997 on west ferry


Reply author: Ivan
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 18:08:15
Message:

What are the Scottish and UK 10 records ?

Leve de Wielersport


Reply author: Steve McGinty
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 18:53:44
Message:

Scottish record is Jason Mac - 18'47"

UK is Dr Hutch - 17'57"

Can't remember if Wiggins did faster but got DQ-ed for riding wrong front rim?






Reply author: frenkmcginty
Replied on: 03 Sep 2011 22:12:23
Message:

i met that francesco russo on the a77 one night ...he was on his recumbent getting in the miles for his hour record attempt...we did a cheeky wee 2up and averaged 80kph covering a measured 10 miles in 15 minutes....is this a record....frenklylaidback


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 15:05:44
Message:

Atkinson-Eglinton -19'37',19'48.
Westferry-19'52',19'54,19'59'.
Levens,Cumbria-19'10',19'30'.


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 15:10:02
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by craig mcg[/i]
[br]if i mind right mark atkinson done a 19 sumthin on blairdrummond in 2004 i think?, west ferry had been cancelled that night and a few riders including mark came over n got a private time trial at stirling, can remember tommy glendinning reading his time and saying that was a good year for beetroot!


19'59' just before the road surface was chipped. Ridden privately due to late entry.

craig mcgowan


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 17:58:08
Message:

First post updated with all info received so far. Have emailed Carlos. Anybody missing?


Reply author: jockanese
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 18:17:17
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Ivan[/i]
[br]What are the Scottish and UK 10 records ?

Leve de Wielersport



I'm more surprised that you are interested in times for a time trial!


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 18:28:00
Message:

Carlos did a 19:54 on Eglington (AY4) 4/5/2002
Someone has Mark listed as a 19.59 in Fife Champs but the only sub 20 on Fife course was Jason with a 19.32 in Aug 2007.

Mhairi


Reply author: Ivan
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 18:29:13
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by jockanese[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Ivan[/i]
[br]What are the Scottish and UK 10 records ?

Leve de Wielersport



I'm more surprised that you are interested in times for a time trial!



I don't know what came over me , don't tell Viktor !

Leve de Wielersport


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 19:17:37
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by The Feeder[/i]
[br]Carlos did a 19:54 on Eglington (AY4) 4/5/2002
Someone has Mark listed as a 19.59 in Fife Champs but the only sub 20 on Fife course was Jason with a 19.32 in Aug 2007.

Mhairi





Correct, the time was 20'05'' at the Scots champs on the loop course.

I am sure Carlos has done a time of 19'48'' at Eglinton winning a midweek ten a few years ago.


Reply author: willie stephen
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 19:21:49
Message:

Graeme OBree rode a 19.38 i think one year late 1990's to early 2000's at the Fullarton Wheelers xmas 10 mile TT . Cycling weekly noted it as a all time British winter 10 mile tt record.

I was organiser but cannot remember the year, it was just before we started using Drybridge hall as the strip.Time of event was December 19th.

Willie.


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 19:33:16
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by willie stephen[/i]
[br]Graeme OBree rode a 19.38 i think one year late 1990's to early 2000's at the Fullarton Wheelers xmas 10 mile TT . Cycling weekly noted it as a all time British winter 10 mile tt record.

I was organiser but cannot remember the year, it was just before we started using Drybridge hall as the strip.Time of event was December 19th.

Willie.


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 19:40:34
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by bubba[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by willie stephen[/i]
[br]Graeme OBree rode a 19.38 i think one year late 1990's to early 2000's at the Fullarton Wheelers xmas 10 mile TT . Cycling weekly noted it as a all time British winter 10 mile tt record.

I was organiser but cannot remember the year, it was just before we started using Drybridge hall as the strip.Time of event was December 19th.

Willie.





I had the Cycling Weekly which had a report from that event. It was a time of 19'49'' i recall as I cannot find the mag. He rode fixed and won by 3 mns. He donated his prize money to Yorkhill hospital. An amazing offseason performance.


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 05 Sep 2011 19:42:46
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by willie stephen[/i]
[br]Graeme OBree rode a 19.38 i think one year late 1990's to early 2000's at the Fullarton Wheelers xmas 10 mile TT . Cycling weekly noted it as a all time British winter 10 mile tt record.

I was organiser but cannot remember the year, it was just before we started using Drybridge hall as the strip.Time of event was December 19th.

Willie.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 15:57:25
Message:

carlos confirms a nineteen something on Eglinton years ago. Can anyone else provide more info please?


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 18:38:12
Message:

My brother has kept a record of every race he has ever taken part in(which is numerous - nearly 1000)and in it he also notes who the winner is. He has several sub 20s for Mark, but only has 1 for Carlos. This was the 19.54, which I mentioned in my earlier post, on the Eglington course in 2002.

Mhairi


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 19:24:37
Message:

I've updated the first post in the thread and it looks like we're nearly there - just a couple of dates and events to be filled in - unless of course there are any more names to add?


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 20:03:11
Message:

Should the list not include ALL sub 20 rides?

Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Jason MacIntyre 8/07 19:32 Fife
Mark Atkinson 19:37 AY4 Eglinton
Jim Gladwell 13/8/97 19:41 Westferry
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Ben Peacock 16/7/11 19.53 Glasgow Wheelers CC 10 Westferry
Carlos Riise 4/5/02 19:54 AY4 Eglinton
Jason MacIntyre 2007 19:58 A77


What about Bubba's times for Mark Atkinson and Willie Stephen's time for Graeme Obree at the Xmas 10?

Graeme Obree 19:38 Xmas 10
Mark Atkinson 19:48 AY4 Eglinton
Mark Atkinson 19:52 Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:54 Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:59 Westferry


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 20:53:59
Message:

Your list can include anything you like Graeme.

I merely wondered who had beaten 20 minutes in Scotland, and what each rider's fastest time was? Looks like that's now been completed with lots of great help from the chatroom members?

Thanks for everyone's help.


Reply author: Steve McGinty
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 21:03:04
Message:

I'm pretty sure the timetrialforum fastest times section has been compiled similarly. ie it's not a RTTC/CTT official site.

I don't know if SC have any intentions to add a records/past/current champions section to their bit of the BC website.

I know Jock Shaw keeps copies of all the above. Seems a shame they're not available online.


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 06 Sep 2011 21:13:46
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]Your list can include anything you like Graeme.

I merely wondered who had beaten 20 minutes in Scotland, and what each rider's fastest time was? Looks like that's now been completed with lots of great help from the chatroom members?

Thanks for everyone's help.



Fine. I misunderstood thinking you wanted to know all the sub 20 times not just the riders.

Can anybody else verify the Atkinson and Obree times I listed as ????

Hopefully I'll add to that list on Saturday at Georgetown, oops thats only 7.2 miles not 10


Reply author: Langside
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 10:45:18
Message:

Anyone any idea how this equates to power output? I know it is body specific, but do you need >400W for this sort of performance?


Reply author: grantus
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 12:39:42
Message:

plus the aerodynamic consideration.

Seem to remember reading somewhere about Graeme Obree's power output compared to Moser's when comparing hour records.

IIRC, Obree had the lowest output by quite a fair bit but his position was so much better therefore he went better.

Could be completely wrong mind you


Reply author: largeheadsmallbrain
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 14:55:19
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Langside[/i]
[br]Anyone any idea how this equates to power output? I know it is body specific, but do you need >400W for this sort of performance?



True for me.


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 15:06:06
Message:

How much greater though?


Reply author: Langside
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 15:58:23
Message:

Jeepers, just shows you whats required physiologically. Not sure I could do 400W for more than 4mins!

Think I'll concentrate on sucking my cheeks in


Reply author: largeheadsmallbrain
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 17:04:37
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by grantus[/i]
[br]plus the aerodynamic consideration.

Seem to remember reading somewhere about Graeme Obree's power output compared to Moser's when comparing hour records.




I rmember reading that before, but it struck me that it was only Moser for whom power output was known. THe "Obree used less power" seemed to have been extrapolated from an assumption that Obree position has a certain drag coefficient (again, assumed not measured)


Reply author: grantus
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 20:05:23
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Langside[/i]
[br]Jeepers, just shows you whats required physiologically. Not sure I could do 400W for more than 4mins!

Think I'll concentrate on sucking my cheeks in



Me too - the ones on my ar*e, that is


Reply author: ian sharp
Replied on: 08 Sep 2011 21:59:01
Message:

Just to put this one to bed,Jasons' 19 on the A77 was historic,
A) He won the Scottish Championship,wearing his brilliant GB all-white skinsuit.
B) He caught Jim Cusick for 2 minutes---unheard of!
Big Jim said after the shock---"It was an honour to be caught by such a man!"
A few weeks later,Jason put the record on the shelf at West Ferry.
in the Glasgow Wheelers event.
Sadly,that was his last season!


Reply author: largeheadsmallbrain
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 11:09:46
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Langside[/i]
[br]Jeepers, just shows you whats required physiologically. Not



Absolute Vo2 (L/min) = .0095*Watts + 0.9579

therefore 4.7L /min O2 consumption,
= 63ml/kg/min
= 92%of VO2Max

(Armstrong 30 minute Galibier, 495 watt , would have taken 5.66 L/min. That's 90% of his vo2 max, 6.3L/min. His relative vo2 max is 84 L/kg-min. )


Reply author: grantus
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 11:40:12
Message:

http://kent.academia.edu/LouisPassfield/Papers/527974/Comparing_cycling_world_hour_records_1967-1996_modeling_with_empirical_data


If you scroll right down to the end their is a table with the results of the experiment which compares estimated hour record power outputs.

Gold star to anyone who reads the whole thing up to that point. Extra gold star if you understand it.


Reply author: Langside
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 15:38:04
Message:

Arthur

I dont think I understand this:


Is the formula based on max 5min wattage to calculate max O2 consumption? Or is it calculating O2 consumption at threshold.

There seems to be a bit of working missing in between the Vo2max calculation and % of Vo2 max

Craig

quote:
[i]Originally posted by largeheadsmallbrain[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Langside[/i]
[br]Jeepers, just shows you whats required physiologically. Not



Absolute Vo2 (L/min) = .0095*Watts + 0.9579

therefore 4.7L /min O2 consumption,
= 63ml/kg/min
= 92%of VO2Max

(Armstrong 30 minute Galibier, 495 watt , would have taken 5.66 L/min. That's 90% of his vo2 max, 6.3L/min. His relative vo2 max is 84 L/kg-min. )


Reply author: Z00SH
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 18:03:03
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by grantus[/i]
[br]http://kent.academia.edu/LouisPassfield/Papers/527974/Comparing_cycling_world_hour_records_1967-1996_modeling_with_empirical_data




Totally unrelated but I went to College with Louis Passfield yonks ago, he road for Dumfries CC and I can remember him winning a 3/4 cat RR up at Stewarton.


Reply author: largeheadsmallbrain
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 18:44:26
Message:

calculation expressed as a percentage of measured VO2 max

Absolute VO2 is calculated oxygen uptake for my TT wattage. The constants in the equation are not specific to me, but gets the right ball park figure.


Reply author: bigjim
Replied on: 09 Sep 2011 20:06:27
Message:

am not glad my brains were
supported by my saddle.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 14 Jun 2012 07:55:10
Message:

Two new members joined the club last night..............

Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:37 AY4 Eglinton
Jim Gladwell 13/8/97 19:41 Westferry
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Iain Grant 13/6/12 19:50 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry
Ben Peacock 16/7/11 19.53 Glasgow Wheelers CC 10 Westferry
Carlos Riise 4/5/02 19:54 AY4 Eglinton
Silas Goldsworthy 13/6/12 19:55 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry


Reply author: grantus
Replied on: 14 Jun 2012 21:10:56
Message:

you wait all year for a number 19 then twocome along at the same time!!!


Reply author: rus
Replied on: 15 Jun 2012 02:09:10
Message:

Graeme Smith of the defunct Scotia CC did a high 19 as a junior on the A82 Balloch course.I'll try and confirm the time with his brother Scott.
I'm sure in that era Dave Hannah and possibly Davie Millar did 19s.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 15 Jul 2012 23:21:14
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]Just updating Ben Peacock's time...............
Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:37 AY4 Eglinton
Jim Gladwell 13/8/97 19:41 Westferry
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Iain Grant 13/6/12 19:50 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry
Ben Peacock 14/7/12 19.46 Glasgow Wheelers CC 10 Westferry
Carlos Riise 4/5/02 19:54 AY4 Eglinton
Silas Goldsworthy 13/6/12 19:55 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry



Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 15 Jul 2012 23:22:21
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by rus[/i]
[br]Graeme Smith of the defunct Scotia CC did a high 19 as a junior on the A82 Balloch course.I'll try and confirm the time with his brother Scott.
I'm sure in that era Dave Hannah and possibly Davie Millar did 19s.



I'm afraid he didn't - and neither did the other two (In Scotland anyway).


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 28 Jul 2013 07:34:21
Message:

Jason MacIntyre 12/7/07 18:47 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Graeme Obree 1997 19:29 Glasgow Wh 10 Westferry
Mark Atkinson 19:37 AY4 Eglinton
Silas Goldsworthy 27/7/13 19:37 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry
Jim Gladwell 13/8/97 19:41 Westferry
Ben Peacock 27/7/13 19:41 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry
Arthur Doyle 31/8/11 19:45 Glasgow RC 10 Westferry
Iain Grant 13/6/12 19:50 Inverclyde Velo 10 Westferry
Carlos Riise 4/5/02 19:54 AY4 Eglinton

Have updated this with Ben and Silas's times from yesterday. Any other updated info appreciated please? Was that a Scottish PB for both guys yesterday? Has anyone else joined the Nineteen minute club in Scotland?


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 28 Jul 2013 09:45:33
Message:

PBs for both, Silas by 18 secs and Ben by 1 sec.


Reply author: The Old Faithful
Replied on: 28 Jul 2013 15:37:31
Message:

Does this include all of Graeme Obree's times? Think he held the in and out of season 10 records separately. He clocked a 19 at an Eglinton Xmas 10 for example.


Reply author: frenkmcginty
Replied on: 28 Jul 2013 21:18:27
Message:

the old pedant morelike...who cares??? jimsy did a straight out 17 .34 on his way back from the dalmally....


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 28 Jul 2013 23:44:49
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by The Old Faithful[/i]
[br]Does this include all of Graeme Obree's times? Think he held the in and out of season 10 records separately. He clocked a 19 at an Eglinton Xmas 10 for example.



Each rider's Scottish PB only.


Reply author: willie stephen
Replied on: 29 Jul 2013 08:27:46
Message:

Gordon
Graeme Obree done a 19.37 on Eglinton late 90s on roughly 19th of December in an event i organised, at the time it was a British out of season record.


Cheers
Willie


Reply author: The Old Faithful
Replied on: 29 Jul 2013 13:50:32
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by The Old Faithful[/i]
[br]Does this include all of Graeme Obree's times? Think he held the in and out of season 10 records separately. He clocked a 19 at an Eglinton Xmas 10 for example.



Each rider's Scottish PB only.



Got you




Reply author: bigjim
Replied on: 29 Jul 2013 18:34:08
Message:

Gentlemen.what is an out of season record.
is it not in the handbook? or registered
course? or is it a confined event? Please
let an old guy know.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 29 Jul 2013 18:59:29
Message:

[quote][i]Originally posted by willie stephen[/i]
[br]Gordon
Graeme Obree done a 19.37 on Eglinton late 90s on roughly 19th of December in an event i organised, at the time it was a British out of season record.


Cheers
Willie
[/quot

Each rider's Scottish PB only.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 21 Aug 2013 23:39:45
Message:

Ben Peacock's 19:38 tonight knocks 16 seconds off of his PB. Anyone know what the current team record is? Paisley Velo did 1:00:11 tonight.


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 21 Aug 2013 23:51:20
Message:

Did Dooleys RT not do it on Westferry in the Nationals 2012?


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 11 May 2014 18:02:46
Message:

19:40 for Iain Grant today moves him up the table and a new team record for Dooleys.


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 19 May 2014 00:00:42
Message:

Hi Gordon

What about Stuart Duff?? did he not clock a 19?



Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: Jocky
Replied on: 19 May 2014 07:47:10
Message:

there another 1 dave whitehall


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 19 May 2014 13:38:39
Message:

Good shout Jocky

Back in the day, im sure he rode on a winter bike with mudguards and no aero bars and still hurled round in 20 min :-) Alfe Engers material!

Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: STEPHEN T.
Replied on: 19 May 2014 17:12:37
Message:

Davie Whitehall held the Scottish 10 mile record when I started competing in 1984. His time was 20;49

JL TRISTRAM


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 19 May 2014 20:17:25
Message:

Sorry chaps, neither Stewart or Davy went under 20 mins.


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 21 Aug 2016 19:10:53
Message:

Jon Entwistle and Chris Smart join the list

And I think there may be another soon...


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 22 Aug 2016 21:20:08
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tester[/i]
[br]Jon Entwistle and Chris Smart join the list

And I think there may be another soon...



Is it a secret?


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 24 Aug 2016 00:03:44
Message:

John Archibald surely
his low 50 min 25tt at Westfferry was impressive.



Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 27 Aug 2016 19:11:16
Message:

Stevie have you any idea how many have went sub 50 for a 25 in Scotland? O'Bree, Macintyre... anybody else?


Reply author: Jonny May
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 13:59:19
Message:

19:59 for John Archibald at Cambusbarron today.


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 14:15:02
Message:

Thats mind blowing on that course


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 15:22:33
Message:

Huge well done to John for clocking a 19.

Any rider that does that in Scotland should be knighted

I am not 100% on that one Neil.
Certainly think it's a very short list if any.

need to research this one as II'm sure Atkinson went below 50min.








Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 15:30:21
Message:

25 championship in a fortnight will be interesting.

Mhairi


Reply author: bubba
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 17:30:32
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tester[/i]
[br]Stevie have you any idea how many have went sub 50 for a 25 in Scotland? O'Bree, Macintyre... anybody else?



Atkinson did a 49 45 on the now unused Inchture Dundee 25 many years ago. O'Bree may have set the Scottish record on that course or a variant of it many many years ago!


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 17:35:19
Message:

Unreal ride from John this morning - KUDOS! The 25 champs should be very hotly contested indeed


Reply author: SHBC
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 19:36:26
Message:

This morning mere mortals went about 45s slower than their best this season. If the event had been on Westferry, John could have done an 18 or very close.

It's in the genes!


Reply author: Iain
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 20:09:33
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by SHBC[/i]
[br]This morning mere mortals went about 45s slower than their best this season. If the event had been on Westferry, John could have done an 18 or very close.

It's in the genes!




FWIW I was within a handful of seconds of my time from last w/e at Fullarton, won of course by Chris Smart in his excellent 19:50. A 19:59 today... Words fail me for the second week in a row.


Reply author: Iain
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 20:17:20
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by bubba[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tester[/i]
[br]Stevie have you any idea how many have went sub 50 for a 25 in Scotland? O'Bree, Macintyre... anybody else?



Atkinson did a 49 45 on the now unused Inchture Dundee 25 many years ago. O'Bree may have set the Scottish record on that course or a variant of it many many years ago!


David Gibson did a 49 on this course.

Open and Invitational 25 on the Symington / A78 25 course away back brought in at least one sub-50 by Obree (a 48 IIRC) but I don't recall if 2nd was (1) a 49 or (2) Scottish: Think it was Richard Prebble, so no to (2), and possibly only a 50. Obree's ride was mad that day.


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 20:19:24
Message:

I PB'd today couldn't have been that bad!


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 28 Aug 2016 22:05:14
Message:

David just confirmed to me earlier he clocked a very very impressive 49:21 in 2000.

quite remarkable!

Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 29 Aug 2016 09:12:43
Message:

To update the list, can we have name / date / time / course please?


Reply author: stevie blom
Replied on: 29 Aug 2016 12:40:54
Message:

Have to add, when those quick times where done it wasn't in state of the art tt
equipment we have at our disposal today plus aerodynamic
wasn't as efficient.

Makes you wonder what that would equate to in modern era we live in today.

Train hard and rest hard race hard.


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 29 Aug 2016 15:22:33
Message:

Davy rode a road trek with tri bars in those days


Reply author: 2112stu
Replied on: 29 Aug 2016 18:54:22
Message:

Is there a result sheet for Sunday anywhere?

Stu


Reply author: Iain
Replied on: 29 Aug 2016 19:11:30
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]Davy rode a road trek with tri bars in those days


On the day he did his 49 a large number of others did exceptional times, with Andrea Pogson setting a very longstanding women's record (mid-55 I think), and I even managed a 53 on a Look road bike with tribars. David Gibson was flaked out on his back at the side of the DC groaning not far after the finish as I rolled past shortly after.


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 30 Aug 2016 08:44:05
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]To update the list, can we have name / date / time / course please?




Jon Entwistle, 18/8/16, 19.55, Dundee Ethiebeaton
Chris Smart, 21/8/16, 19.50, Eglinton AY4
John Archibald, 28/8/16, 19.59, Cambusbarron


Reply author: Tester
Replied on: 30 Aug 2016 08:45:02
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by 2112stu[/i]
[br]Is there a result sheet for Sunday anywhere?

Stu



Provisional results on BC. https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/events/details/142965/Royal-Albert-CC-10-mile-TT


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 30 Aug 2016 18:27:29
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tester[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]To update the list, can we have name / date / time / course please?




Jon Entwistle, 18/8/16, 19.55, Dundee Ethiebeaton
Chris Smart, 21/8/16, 19.50, Eglinton AY4
John Archibald, 28/8/16, 19.59, Cambusbarron


Do the other 2 have course numbers?


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 13 Mar 2017 16:45:24
Message:

Have updated the original post with John Archibald's ride from the weekend. He now overtakes Graeme Obree.

The rules - single fastest ride by each rider on a Scottish course.


Reply author: 2112stu
Replied on: 15 Mar 2017 18:36:52
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by The Feeder[/i]
[br]Carlos did a 19:54 on Eglington (AY4) 4/5/2002
Someone has Mark listed as a 19.59 in Fife Champs but the only sub 20 on Fife course was Jason with a 19.32 in Aug 2007.

Mhairi




is this under threat now Mhairi?

Stu


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 15 Mar 2017 19:49:04
Message:

It is a slightly different course that we use now to the one that was used when Jason did his 19.32 there, but I think there is a good chance that the current course record could go.

Mhairi


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 12 Jul 2017 22:46:59
Message:

First post updated with John Archibald's ride from tonight at Westferry. Douglas Watson also joins the exclusive club.


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 17 Jul 2017 15:54:17
Message:

Really good to see the updated list. Thanks Gordon.

I noticed that your updated list at the beginning of the post had Iain Grant's time is missing.


Mhairi


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 18 Jul 2017 18:04:28
Message:

When, where and what time Mhairi?


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 18 Jul 2017 19:19:48
Message:

Hi Gordon
He was on your list on page 2 of the post but obviously not put on your edited list at the start of the post when you updated it.

He did a 19.50 on 13.6.12 at Inverclyde 10 at Westferry.

Mhairi


Reply author: Graeme
Replied on: 28 Aug 2017 07:24:26
Message:

What a day at the Dooleys 10TT, certainly wasn't a float day but turned out to be a fast one

John Archibald 18.38 (National Record)
Kyle Gordon 19.37 (Fixed)
Douglas Watson 19.41
David Griffiths 19.46
Alan Holmes 20.00 :-(


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 28 Aug 2017 22:31:16
Message:

Updating the list now


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 29 Aug 2017 04:08:11
Message:

Fantastic times recorded and well done to John on his sub 19.

I note 2 names that were on the list are no longer there (assume accidently got deleted when editing)

Silas Goldsworthy - 27.7.13 Westferry - 19.37
Iain Grant - 11.5.14 Eglinton - 19.40

Thanks for keeping the list updated Gordon as it is great to see all the times together

Mhairi


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 29 Aug 2017 19:54:25
Message:

Done


Reply author: Big Al
Replied on: 29 Aug 2017 23:27:11
Message:

Think you're missing Jon Entwistle's 19:55 Gordon, sure it was Ethiebeaton 16 Aug 2016


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 30 Aug 2017 16:04:10
Message:

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Big Al[/i]
[br]Think you're missing Jon Entwistle's 19:55 Gordon, sure it was Ethiebeaton 16 Aug 2016



Done


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 29 Apr 2018 20:01:47
Message:

Well this morning's CTT 10 Championships saw a couple of new names to be added to the 19 min list.
The event was held on the Westferry Course this morning (29.4.18)

Jamie Davidson (Aberdeen Wheelers) 19.30
Douglas Watson (GTR - Return to Life) 19.38
David Griffiths (Bioracer Project GP) 19.41
Liam Beaty (Hawick CC) 19.42
Alan Thomson (RT23) 19.56

Douglas and David obviously had recorded 19s before but think today's time are quicker. Jamie, Liam and Alan are all new to the club.

Well done to all


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 29 Apr 2018 21:34:26
Message:

Will get the list updated.


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 10 Jun 2018 14:17:12
Message:

Another one to join to the list from this morning.

Rob Friel 19.54 - Cambusbarron Course (Stirling) - 10.6.18

Mhairi


Reply author: The Feeder
Replied on: 15 Jul 2018 15:35:20
Message:

Well another 2 times to add to the list. Both riders are already on the list but improved on their times this morning at the Stuart Turvey Memorial 10 in Fife this morning.

Kyle Gordon 15.7.18 - 18.54 - FI-5 Freuchie - New Course Record
Alan Thomson 15.7.18 - 19.46 - FI-5 Freuchie

Mhairi


Reply author: Gordon Goldie
Replied on: 11 Aug 2019 00:47:53
Message:

Updated


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