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fuente Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 15:10:25
After getting two lads out last year for short spells to Belgium looks like this year we will have a lot more young Scots.
I will use this thread to post up performances and stories. Some of the lads might chuck some stories in as well.


Dougie Young arrived first last week and went straight into a 140 up rider Kermesse and was punted after 3/4 distance, not bad after not much sleep. Dougie also rode out and back to the race

Finlay Young 2nd to arrive and rode a tough Junior race in West Flanders course and got in some early moves, overcooked it and eventually retired. Finlay rode out and back to the race.


Next day undeterred Finlay rode a junior race at Stijnrider Gooik and again showed early promise but eventually succummed to the heat

Dougie on the same day rode a Kermesse in Gooik and got into the early move of 7 . Eventually beaten by the 36 degree heat he went back to the bunch and eventually retired with heat exhaustion and swallowed a Walls Cornetto in one gulp

Early days yet but both flying the flag and fighting to improve. Very impressed that they are cooking own grub , riding out and back, It will come.

They have a big choice of races this week. More riders arrive mid week


Callum Gough
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fuente Posted - 30 Aug 2010 : 19:11:20
some are hilly some are flat ,course doesnt matter
MCoopland Posted - 30 Aug 2010 : 16:53:29
quote:
[i]Originally posted by fuente[/i]
[br]Ian Sinclair uses this rolling road closure in his races but uses the Police to do it , maybe this is the blueprint.



Is the blue print more to do with the course. Only 5ks long and it sounds as if it is almost flat. Not a crit but a short flat circuit. Blue prnt for some events next year?

Martin Coopland

www.crotchguard.co.uk
Crap name - great product!

Tommy M Posted - 30 Aug 2010 : 15:44:04
after the most boring ferry trip of 20hours and sleeping on the floor i arrived in belgium, nice and warm wooo! i arrived on wednesday tea time and had a race sorted for thursday night similar to the tli, i rode out with michael and liam i managed to get round in the bunch after getting to excited on lap 2 and goin off the front it didnt last long, liam was out in the break most of the race only to be caught 2km to go, graeme neagle then arrived the next day and 1 of the biggest revelations happened.. he shaved his legs ha, ive rode a couple elite races and gotten punted early on, and rode another yesterday which was a 37km cycle out on my own rode the race and almost finished until 4laps to go everyone started attacking eachother and there was a split in the field when someone cudnt close the gap so four of us went throu and off but coudnt get back on then it was 37km home again only for there to be a storm almost being blown off my bike by it. im starting to get used to the belgian style of racing.. which in my view is dont think about later in the race just ride on the limit from the gun until u blow up. crazy. ive got another 3 races this week before heading home, it must be said what callum is doing is great to get the opertunity to do this thanks.
fuente Posted - 30 Aug 2010 : 13:56:10
They are still out there...... Too shy to post I think
fuente Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 22:18:31
Two more head out next week......... Any more?
doc Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 13:33:11
Most if not all Premiers use a rolling road closure under Section 16a of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. This enables stoppage of traffic in the vicinity of the race by police marshals (if you have them) and ongoing hold as necessary by both mobile and static marshals. Seen it used in events without a police presence but the public are more likely to stop if there are police bikes rather than NEG. Doesn't mean that you can use the full width of the road though as I tend to remind riders! Organisers apply for this from the polis/cooncil. No reason why only Prems can use it but may be down to lack of knowledge in these matters by local regional event organisers.

fuente Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 10:17:45
Ian Sinclair uses this rolling road closure in his races but uses the Police to do it , maybe this is the blueprint.
barky Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 06:48:02
quote:
[i]Originally posted by fuente[/i]
[br]
most people think the roads are fully closed for the races in Belgium. They are NOT. They run a one way rolling road closure and the marshalls have power to stop the traffic. The front waggon has a flag and the back waggon has a flag. once the back waggon passes they open the road. If the length of time between waggon 1 and 2 goes over 5 mins in a kermesse they make the last group sprint that lap and place you accordingly. This keeps the road closed for only 5 mins. sometimes only a small group will complete the last few laps.



You're right, I did think they were fully closed, I need more detailed info on how this is done. I remember a rolling road closure in the drummond a long time ago, does anybody know how to go about getting something like this set up, is it still something that's within the law here etc, I'd like to know if it's a possibility... colin_bark@yahoo.co.uk

www.vortexraceteam.co.uk
fuente Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 22:12:29
"5km windy course 22 times. About 500m of smooth cobbles where you turned right onto a 1km section of home straight rough cobbles then turned right onto a long open headwind section running along the canal. Then another right onto single track road, twisty and turny and then right again with another crosswind section before turning onto the cobbles again"

We should think about the above description in and reflect on it. Must be courses like that in small villages ,countryside, edges of towns that we could use and close off (or one way), especially if its part of a carnival or local celebration ,proceeds donated to a local charity etc to get the village council support

most people think the roads are fully closed for the races in Belgium. They are NOT. They run a one way rolling road closure and the marshalls have power to stop the traffic. The front waggon has a flag and the back waggon has a flag. once the back waggon passes they open the road. If the length of time between waggon 1 and 2 goes over 5 mins in a kermesse they make the last group sprint that lap and place you accordingly. This keeps the road closed for only 5 mins. sometimes only a small group will complete the last few laps.
Gordon Goldie Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 19:54:35
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Ivan[/i]
[br]A Scot , third from right at the start in Lovendegem and behind Macic in the second foto , see :

http://www.bloggen.be/rodeden/

Leve de Wielersport



I love it in Belgium when every man woman, dog and wean within 100yards all crowd in for the podium pics!
D Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 16:27:39
This is brilliant, well done lads, and Callum! This is a great time of the year for these lads to be doing this as it should give them the motivation to keep going through the winter! Keep it up!
Ivan Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 15:36:50
A Scot , third from right at the start in Lovendegem and behind Macic in the second foto , see :

http://www.bloggen.be/rodeden/

Leve de Wielersport
fuente Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 15:27:11
from Dougie Young 10 August at 22:11
Managed to get round the race on Sunday. 34th big bunch sprint going for 16th.

Quality race today up near Gent in Lovendegem. 35 starters on a 5km windy course 22 times. About 500m of smooth cobbles where you turned right onto a 1km section of home straight rough cobbles then turned right onto a long open headwind section running along the canal. Then another right onto single track road, twisty and turny and then right again with another crosswind section before turning onto the cobbles again. Mario Williams and the gang turned up. Was alrite the first few laps still hard but no danger of getting dropped. Michael said at one point going all along the headwind section we were doing about 35mph with Mario Williams pumping it on the front. I was getting gapped all the time on the rough cobble section when it was lined out. Was just bouncing all over the place giving it everything. Started to rain about an hour in. Had my tyres jacked up full aswell so when we went on the cobbles in the wet i was in trouble. Sliding all over the shop. I had to bunny hop onto the pavement to make the corner and almost smashed into cafe chairs. Carnage man. Next time going onto the cobbles a lap later there was a few crashes infront of me and thats when I got gapped properly and couldnt get back on. Rode out to the race and back so still still about 4hrs or so in the bag. Michael did an awesome ride and got 8th! Was in the mix with Mario Williams and the some fat Kiwi xxxx all day untill about 3 or 4 laps to go. Some ride like.

fuente Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 15:25:09
From Michael Nicolson 11 August at 08:35

Liam and myself cycled out to a race in zelzate. Really windy pan flat course. I finished 19th and Liam 29th. Mario Willems Won.

Last week i took easy as i was starting to feel a bit fatigued.

On Sunday Dougie, Liam, Henry Bird, and myself cycled to Bottelare for another race. There was a big field of over 100. The first four laps I was away with what looked to be a promising move (with Mario Willems, Tony Bracke, Dan Patten, a topsport vlannderen, and two others) Somehow it got pulled back even though we averaged 48kph for the four laps. After that i started to feel **** and then discovered that my wheel was buckled and rubbing the brakes. I pulled out. Dougie finished 34th in the bunch and Henry finished his first elite race in 45th. Mario Willems won.

Yesterday (tuesday) dougie, Liam and myself cycled out to lovendgem. The course was a pan flat 5km circuit with a 1km cobbled section through the start finish. Everytime through the start was mental and turned onto a huge crosswind section. The field split up significantly. I manged to get in a few moves early on but all were pulled back. it started to rain which made the cobbles even worse. I eventually made it into the winning break of eight about half distance. There was not smooth working though and attacks were coming everytime through the cobbles and onto the crosswinds. I got dropped with 4 of 22 to go and rode two laps in solitude. They pulled me with 2 to go. I finished eighth but somehow the results sheet bumped two belgians above me. Quite funny as the two finished over a minute behind me. Liam got 21st but dougie wasnt given a finish as he pulled out without the organisers say so. As is coming a bit of a trend Mario Willems won again.

Resting today and racing tomorrow hopefully.
Graham McG Posted - 01 Aug 2010 : 14:41:52
Excellent, great result Andy.
Been a good week for the Dooley boys with Grant riding out his skin last weekend and Arthur taking another euro pursuit title.

Good too to see the time defying juggernaut that is Ivor Reid grabbing yet another sprint title at the euros.
jockanese Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 21:52:40
A win in Belgium is worth more than anywhere else.
Well done,
davidmam Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 21:33:52


That's excellent news. Well done Andy.

Fat bloke on a bike
fuente Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 20:21:48
By the way the team spirit of these guys is such that they would all celebrate this win as if they won themselves. Good stuff
fuente Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 20:20:06
Yes

Andy Leith was in what was left of the coming together of many small groups into one mass sprint . One rider jumped away and had a gap, Andy jumped hard up the inside and crossed the gap with the bunch snapping like hungry dogs on his tail. He crossed and passed the rider to win.

Fantastic stuff and well deserved.
harrisphoto Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 18:43:34
From Mark young -

Andrew leith won today, 15 laps of a 5.8km circuit. Open jnr race St.Kornelisvrienden Lierde.

Well done Andy

Martin Harris
www.discoveryjcc.co.uk
Bob Cowie Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 10:15:47
How about a regular weekly update from the Belgain, lads?

Thanks to Callum for doing this for the lad's!



Robert Cowie
Rab W Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 17:06:48
This is great. Keep it up guys.
fuente Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 22:51:58
Yes great team performance from the juniors with two on the podium. They are all clicking now as a team and getting used to the Belgian tactics ,no move went without one of them being in it. All riding well. Some teams are starting to approach the riders for next year.

In the last two Elite races Michael Nicolson has got 31st and 21st respectively and is starting to get in the moves now. At Nederzwalm he was in a promising looking three man break that was brought back. The Nederzwalm race had big crowds watching and over 100 riders.

Callum Gough
mark young Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 22:00:13
Just got some texts via another source; the juniors have been hoovering up the euros today. 2nd for Taylor Johnstone, 3rd for Matt Hamilton, 5th Jack Barrett, 6th Andy Leith 12th for James Smith 22nd for Finlay Young. I think we all feel some wins coming soon!
Yet again, without Callum G, Mark McKay, the Braveheartfund and the parents, none of this would be possible. Many thanks to them.


Mark Young
ian sharp Posted - 22 Jul 2010 : 20:57:57
Absolutely brilliant!
Keep it up.wee jocks,as the American troops said in WW2,"We're right behind you,2 bl++++ miles behind you"
Sorry,couldn't resist that,Mr Cameron!
But yes,WE are all behind you,watching and waiting.
When you come home,you will be heroes to us,the ones who matter!!!

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