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| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 12:08:19
The recent request for the Couriers trophy got me thinking about memorial trophies in general....
I've seen write ups about Alex Hendry and Jimmy Brinkins (GWCC Campsies), I knew the great Jimmy Train, I vaguely knew d1ck Londragon, but there are dozens of other memorial trophies out there where the stories of the people involved rarely get mentioned?
Would it be worthwhile / interesting / readable to post the stories about those involved up here? If enough interest, perhaps a "Memorials" section could be added next to the obituaries on the forum front page?
What does everyone else think, and what do you have in the way of stories aboyt those remembered on silverware? |
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| owenp |
Posted - 21 Apr 2012 : 21:02:18
Just came across this topic.
I did some looking into Billy Warnock, who has a memorial race that I took part in a few times.
http://www.owenphilipson.com/blog/2011/07/20/who-was-billy-warnock/
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| DianneR |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 22:56:23
Jimmy
I wouldn't be surprised if we still have a copy of the St Chris Dinner from 1956! I'll look into it.
Dianne (Rafferty) Rankin |
| mysterae |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 22:29:56
Thanks for that info Jim.I was awarded Tom's memorial at the St Chris CC 21st dinner in 1956 so his death must have been earlier than the early 60's. I knew Tom was a journalist as I saw his full page news report of the Glasgow/Dunoon in the late 40's.when it was part of the Cowal Gathering, Thanks again , see you at the Sam Robinson. |
| JBH |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 21:02:25
quote:
[i]Originally posted by mysterae[/i]
[br]Gordon Watson, Bellisle. Big Gordon had a memorial shield which was awarded to the first Scottish rider in the Tour of LochTay a Peter Fryer Trophy event, which I organised for a number of years.
also, the annual TOM LESLIE Memorial Award, which was awarded to the Scot who had done the most to enhance Scottish Cycling.
Jimmy,
I thought it might be of interest, certainly would be to me, if a brief resume of the people attached to the trophies was available. Below is info on Tom Leslie, Sports Journalist:
TOM LESLIE was a club cyclist, I believe Douglas C.C., who earned his living as a freelance sports journalist reporting on a variety of activities from sports meetings, horse, greyhound racing, tennis, and badminton to bike racing. Bike results were in the Record and other Glasgow newspapers on a Monday morning with various mid -week articles, and a Saturday night (pink edition) papers giving a writeup on Sunday�s events. My folks were friends with Tom Leslie and his wife. All lived locally in Baillieston. He had a quiet manner, always interested in cycling chat, and seemed to spend a large part of his life on his motorbike getting round his patch. Cycling news was well reported by Tom and he was well regarded by all who knew him.
I�m not certain of the precise circumstances surrounding his fatal accident at the bend at Mount Vernon railway bridge around early 1960s. His motorbike struck a lampstandard at the edge of the road, pre compulsory crash hats. Tom was returning from Mount Vernon dog track to report the results for his papers.
Needless to say, some months later, this lampstandard was moved to the inner edge of the pavement.
JBH |
| grantus |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 20:13:18
and a very enjoyable event it is too. possibly the best post race grub???
p.s. does anyone know what the spider monkey job was? i couldnt find anything online. |
| DianneR |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 18:40:52
I couldn't let this thread go without commenting on my own dad, Willie Rafferty. He has a Memorial Race and Trophy still on the go. The Christies also have a Memorial Trophy for his brother The Pat Rafferty Memorial. I'm not sure if this is still on the go, but would like to think it is. Dad joined the Christies on leaving the air force in 1948 and remained so throughout the good times and bad times until his death in 1999.
Dianne (Rafferty) Rankin
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| mysterae |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 17:05:44
Gordon Watson, Bellisle. Big Gordon had a memorial shield which was awarded to the first Scottish rider in the Tour of LochTay a Peter Fryer Trophy event, which I organised for a number of years.
also, the annual TOM LESLIE Memorial Award, which was awarded to the Scot who had done the most to enhance Scottish Cycling. |
| hibbingscot |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 15:21:46
Mhairi
Please pass on my best wishes to your dad. Archie, I'm happy to say is as tough as they come. I have many fond memories of him which are too many to mention although there is one that springs to mind. It was a Fife 50 TT at least 10 years ago,I punctured near the turn at Yetts' and Archie who was driving the course as his son Alistair was riding stopped to pick me up. On the homeward leg Archie stopped every 2 or 3 miles to shout "encouragement" at Alistair. Well it would have taken several bars of carbolic soap to wash out Archie's mouth, so blue was the language!!
Back in 2006 just before we left for the States, my wife Betty and I went to visit him in hospital, I think it was the Western General in Edinburgh. It was soon after his heart surgery and of course the first thing he did was rip open his jammy top to show off his stiches,,,priceless!
Anyway, all the best Archie, and very best wishes from Betty and I in the USA.
Dave Barnes
Dave Barnes |
| The Feeder |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 13:50:17
Hi JJ - No offence taken and you know my dad he wouldn't take any either. If the doctors predictions had been correct Archie should have been dead a long time ago, but as I said he is very stubborn and he actively competed until he was 80/81 and was on his bike until he was 85 not bad for someone who was told he would never walk again at the age of 30
Mhairi |
| bigjim |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 13:36:53
P.S. before I get a another
thump in the head.
Jackie Connor is still alive
and kicking. Jackie Donated
two trophies to the vets
R/R. Champ and Most improved
B.A.R. |
| bigjim |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 13:32:35
Sorry Feeder I should have pointed
that out to Gordon. Give your dad
my best regards.
To Gordon Bill Smith was Known as
Willie. His trophy will be competed
for at Thornhill [The Boomerang Trophy ]
so get yourself a partner and ride. |
| ian sharp |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 12:14:11
I second that,Mhairi. |
| grantus |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 10:13:49
good on him! |
| The Feeder |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 08:29:52
In this fantastic list of Memorial's for the Great Rider I noted Archie Speed is listed. There is a trophy named after Archie, but it is not a memorial. I am very pleased to say that Archie (my dad) is still with us. He will be 89 next week and still as stubborn as ever.
Mhairi |
| Fergus |
Posted - 29 Feb 2012 : 02:30:13
quote:
[i]Originally posted by red biddy[/i]
[br]Fergus
Peter Watson was a Lanark Valley member from Lesmahagow who was tragically killed while training near Malaga in 1986. He was 21 and his parents put up the trophy.The Lanark Valley ran the road race for a few years.
Hi Red
Thanks for that info. Remember it well starting at Lesmahagow and with a big hill each lap..finishing on Carlisle rd..sorry it isn't on anymore. I think Drew Wilson or Stephen Russell won it too..the next year 1993. There was a bit of a clash in the sprint to the line I remember..I was 3rd and saw them drift slightly onto each other's line and bump, have words. |
| STEPHEN T. |
Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 19:50:57
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Gordon Goldie[/i]
[br]I have write-ups on the following memorial trophies;
Jimmy McCallum
Andy Mathieson
Alec Williamson
Jimmy Carlisle
Ken Anderson
Jackie Connor
Jim Lyon
John Cusker
Bill Lennon
Bill Smith
Pinky Williams
Archie Speed
John Cramb
Ben Smith
Tom McGinness
Jim Sharpe
Eddie Taylor
Joe Reilly
Jim & Betty Train
Harry Roberts
If we could have a separate section for "Lates and Greats" next to Obituaries, I could post them in there? There were a few of these on the old SC forum before it died overnight.
Example;
The Eddie Taylor Trophy - SVTTA BAR
Eddie Taylor was a founder member of the Glasgow Road Club when formed in 1927. He was also a member of the CTC which was then a requirement to join the GRC. He started competing in Time Trials in 1928 until he was injured and physically handicapped doing war work as a "spider monkey". He held a variety of posts within the Road Club and was a very efficient track official which became his main interest in later years. Eddie was a member of the SVTTA from 1952 until his death. He competed in veteran time trials in the 1952 and 1953 seasons.
See the separate thread Gordon for Drew Robertson info. |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 15:55:46
ps.................. anyone know what a "spider monkey" would have done? I'm guessing some type of climbing, maybe on ship's masts? |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 15:43:02
I have write-ups on the following memorial trophies;
Jimmy McCallum
Andy Mathieson
Alec Williamson
Jimmy Carlisle
Ken Anderson
Jackie Connor
Jim Lyon
John Cusker
Bill Lennon
Bill Smith
Pinky Williams
Archie Speed
John Cramb
Ben Smith
Tom McGinness
Jim Sharpe
Eddie Taylor
Joe Reilly
Jim & Betty Train
Harry Roberts
If we could have a separate section for "Lates and Greats" next to Obituaries, I could post them in there? There were a few of these on the old SC forum before it died overnight.
Example;
The Eddie Taylor Trophy - SVTTA BAR
Eddie Taylor was a founder member of the Glasgow Road Club when formed in 1927. He was also a member of the CTC which was then a requirement to join the GRC. He started competing in Time Trials in 1928 until he was injured and physically handicapped doing war work as a "spider monkey". He held a variety of posts within the Road Club and was a very efficient track official which became his main interest in later years. Eddie was a member of the SVTTA from 1952 until his death. He competed in veteran time trials in the 1952 and 1953 seasons. |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 14:12:01
Who is / was "biscuits"?
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| The Old Faithful |
Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 12:24:51
I would be interested to hear more about Jimmy Brinkins and Biscuits if anyone has info on them. |
| red biddy |
Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 09:50:15
Fergus
Peter Watson was a Lanark Valley member from Lesmahagow who was tragically killed while training near Malaga in 1986. He was 21 and his parents put up the trophy.The Lanark Valley ran the road race for a few years. |
| grantus |
Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 19:32:30
Nice one bigjim and gordon! Look forward to seeing that. |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 17:00:45
BigJim has sent me an extensive write-up about many famous memorial trophies. All I need to do now is type it up. |
| Leigh M |
Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 11:24:56
Great idea - perhaps a "History" section would work, where you could post about all sorts of forgotten memories/info. Info about the memorials, historic & infamous chain gang/club run routes, races of the past that no longer run (Scottish Milk Race etc), iconic figures who shaped cycling in Scotland.
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| Fergus |
Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 05:08:02
Good idea GG. I had a Peter Watson memorial trophy for a year in 1992..but ashamed to admit I knew little of, if anything of, who this person was or how the event came to be.
And Sam Robinson..? Years of doing that race and didn't inquire or get to know who he was..
And didn't Dukes Pass timed section of Autumn Trossachs TT also have one of the memorial names mentioned above by Gordon?
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