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| Rab W |
Posted - 03 May 2012 : 23:21:03
Please keep an eye out for Rob Friels Raleigh Avanti Road Bike (black white and blue) and my Trek mad one 5.2 (white and mint green, back bar tape and white saddle, tyre walls and spokes) stolen from the south side of Glasgowon the 3rd may 2012. Please share and spread the word. Police have been notified and posting online where possible.
Cheers
Rab |
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| reg |
Posted - 14 May 2012 : 09:23:19
i was speaking to a copper about this yesterday and he basically said get a photo and if possible a car reg and it may well get followed up if reported, but it would not get triaged by call handling as urgent.
Willy Bain has a great story about fixing a bike he knew was nicked and when the guy came back to collect the bike the police were waiting for him.... |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 22:17:53
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Graham McG[/i]
[br]What could the guy have done? Can't imagine the police would have had the blue lights on and sped their way to Blochairn to prevent the reset of a suspected stolen bike.
Seriously, what are the options; ones that don't involve you going to hospital.
Very simple, call the cops and follow at a discreet distance whilst staying on the line to the cops. There is a temporary police station at Blochairn every weekend primarily for this sort of thing. If the new owner gets into a car, note down the reg? |
| steven robertson |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 21:40:54
quote:
[i]Originally posted by barky[/i]
[br]There's also some other reasons for scumbags stealing bikes, during my time living in Cambridge there were always bikes being stolen, everybody had bikes so kind of expected.
Saw something reported in the local paper. Turned out drug dealers had realised that if they got caught with cash they were in big trouble, but a van full of bikes in Cambridge wouldn't bat an eyelid, so no cash changed hands, they got their drugs, dealers got a bike to sell on. They sold the bikes they 'collected' from their customers in Oxford, the bikes stolen in Oxford were sold in Cambridge. They got caught when somebody was offered their own bike back in Cambridge, which had been stolen originally in Cambridge, sold in Oxford, stolen in Oxford and then was attempted to be sold back to the original owner in Cambridge by the same gang.
http://www.vortexraceteam.co.uk
thats magic  going to get a colnago bag of skunk |
| le_soigneur |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 21:24:56
Keep looking, guys. The boy who bought this will probably pack in the idea of racing after a week, or find it doesn't quite fit him. It will be up for sale again.
My winter bike has been stolen twice.. and recovered twice. And reading this recent triumph should encourage you http://www.edinburghrc.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=13413.msg15292#msg15292
I'm with Andy - easy to see if you can get a registration number for the buyer or the seller or a photo. Or just get on the internet on your phone and google it. At the very least, log it with the police, they may have a record of the same bike stolen. They can either add a bad statistic to their list or delete a bad statistic and add a good one! |
| ian sharp |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 21:24:46
In reply to Ythan Andy,this did happen in the late 60's.
The Law may well have changed,if that indeed was the law.
(Or maybe the cop wasn't to impressed with the red marks on the rapscallions neck---Adrenalin was flowing,well,wouldn't you? |
| grantus |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 21:11:02
sorry im with graham. hope the lads get their gear back but likewise the lad buying it must have known it was hooky.
kill you for a parking space - class. could have offered to take the boy for a pub lunch up the budgie :-o |
| barky |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 20:40:49
There's also some other reasons for scumbags stealing bikes, during my time living in Cambridge there were always bikes being stolen, everybody had bikes so kind of expected.
Saw something reported in the local paper. Turned out drug dealers had realised that if they got caught with cash they were in big trouble, but a van full of bikes in Cambridge wouldn't bat an eyelid, so no cash changed hands, they got their drugs, dealers got a bike to sell on. They sold the bikes they 'collected' from their customers in Oxford, the bikes stolen in Oxford were sold in Cambridge. They got caught when somebody was offered their own bike back in Cambridge, which had been stolen originally in Cambridge, sold in Oxford, stolen in Oxford and then was attempted to be sold back to the original owner in Cambridge by the same gang.
http://www.vortexraceteam.co.uk |
| Ythan Andy |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 20:30:11
Not sure where the officer got that 'Nugget' from - you DO NOT have to reimburse the money to some person found in possession of a stolen item, whether the money they paid for it was in good faith or not.
The person in possession of the item may have bought it in 'good faith' but if the circumstances of the purchase is 'unusual' (such as expensive bike at cut price from Barras etc) then there is a strong likelihood the person will be committing the crime of Reset.
'To establish the crime of reset, It is essential to prove guilty knowledge that the property has been dishonestly obtained. Guilty knowledge may be inferred from the circumstances in which the property was received or retained'.
Either that or just straight Theft or 'Theft by Finding' if they claimed to have stumbled across it but not taken steps to return it to the owner.
Police UK wide are starting to realise that Theft of Pedal Cycles is a serious matter due to the volume of the crime and the value of the property. If you see what you believe to be a stolen bike, phone the Police, they can't do anything if you don't tell them about it in the first place. Don't put yourself in harms way but don't do nothing, I would be gutted to know that if my prized possessions were nicked that fellow cyclists would clock them as such but not even try to do something about it.
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| ian sharp |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 20:04:13
Like the Tiggerdines,I had a bike,a distintive "JRJ Racing Cycles",aka a Bob Jackson TT bike,stolen in Carntyne,eastern Glasgow.
Like Paul,weeks later I espied it in Alexandra Parade,also eastern Glasgow.
I chased the rapscallion,pulled him of and dragged him to the nearest telephone box--thankfully it was working!
(I did say East Glasgow)
The Polis came,separated us,asked us both where the Frame No. was.
I told them,he couldn't.
I got the bike back,LESS my prized "butchered Brooks saddle,by Bobbie Finnie,and was warned by the Police,AND THIS IS MY DRAWN_OUT POINT=
"If he claims,as he did,to have bought it in good faith at the Barras,then,by law,YOU MUST RE-IMBURSE HIM THAT MONEY!
Thankfully the wee ***** didn't!
Sometimes the Law is an ass! |
| RossC |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 17:57:54
Hmmm - If you reckon it's Rob or Rab's bike and you and your mate are brave and built like brick ****hooses then just take the bike off him. If you are built like a cyclist then best not to!
Instead, phone the police. It is unlikely they will come before the bike is sold for a ridiculously small amount. So... just buy it yourself! Hopefully get your mate to quietly get photos of this and shots of any car he may drive off in. Contact Rob or Rab and get the photos to the police. The police may well know the guy.
I know Edinburgh has a specialist bike theft/vandalism unit. The guy who tried to nick the missus' bike is due in court soon.
Best of luck to you Rob and Rab. |
| STEPHEN T. |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 16:36:15
quote:
[i]Originally posted by baron[/i]
[br]Grahams right, the cops would have turned up in 3 to 5 years. What would you say to the guy, excuse me, can you provide me with a receipt? No chance. Your not gonna get a response that doesn't involve GTF and maybe his forehead rapidly contacting the bridge of the guys nose.
Guy did the right thing, but at least in the future, if people's bike are stolen they know the first place to look for it.
I had a bike stolen many years ago. A couple of weeks later my brother saw someone on it and literally grabbed him and took it from him. Guy says that's my bike and I bought it. Brother says nae luck I'm returning it to it's owner you can go get the police and report me. Not saying this is the right way to go about things but I laugh looking back on it now. |
| Ythan Andy |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 16:32:53
Guess I'm in a minority of one then. Little hope for decent folk if nobody will take a stand, no matter how small a stand. |
| baron |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 16:19:33
Grahams right, the cops would have turned up in 3 to 5 years. What would you say to the guy, excuse me, can you provide me with a receipt? No chance. Your not gonna get a response that doesn't involve GTF and maybe his forehead rapidly contacting the bridge of the guys nose.
Guy did the right thing, but at least in the future, if people's bike are stolen they know the first place to look for it. |
| Graham McG |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 14:07:37
You can't ever have been to Blochairn Andy. They'll kill you for parking spaces.
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| Ythan Andy |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 14:04:11
Not much of a 'cycling community' if you don't take some sort of positive action when you see someone with what you believe to be a stolen bike.
Not suggesting people should get all Charles Bronson, but if the guy was selling it, go and speak to him, it is a legitimate question when buying a bike to ask about the bike and the owner. Ask his name and take some photos of the bike, if he is not legit, he will probably try to get away from you if you start asking questions he can't answer or doesn't want to, either that or front you up but most likely give himself away in any case.
Disappointed to hear people think they will end up in hospital for speaking to someone selling a bike at a car boot SALE, even if they do think it is stolen. A poor reflection on what we must think of 'society' if that is our attitude.
Police may not have regarded it as an emergency if called but it would have been worth a call at an early stage anyway to give them a heads up. Don't know this location but there may have been a Police unit nearby and not committed to anything else, who could have shown up or followed up later if the guy had taken some details and some photos - instead of allowing someone else to buy the bike and compounding the problem. |
| Graham McG |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 13:46:26
What could the guy have done? Can't imagine the police would have had the blue lights on and sped their way to Blochairn to prevent the reset of a suspected stolen bike. Imagine the phone call 'There's a chap at Blochairn who's not very pleasant looking, who looks as if he needs a feed, selling a bike I and my girlfriend think may be stolen. Can you send some officers down?'
Alternatively he could have challenged the vendor himself, saying I suspect this bike may be stolen and I am going to take it from you.Can imagine how that would pan out.
He could have spoken to the buyer, but then I suspect, if you're buying something obviously out of place you'll suspect it's not legit and perhaps won't appreciate this being pointed out to you.
Maybe take a photo of the guy selling the bike and hope he doesn't see you.
Seriously, what are the options; ones that don't involve you going to hospital. |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 13:20:15
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Rab W[/i]
[br]UPDATE:
We knew that someone had had this stolen from them but couldn't think of what to do.
What a prize fudd! |
| Rab W |
Posted - 13 May 2012 : 07:51:51
UPDATE:
This was posted on Glasgow Fixed Gear Forum in the topic of our stolen bikes.
'Me and my girlfriend went to the Blochairn car boot sale last week.
We saw a guy trying to sell a Raleigh avanti and he stood out like a sore thumb and so did the bike as everything in the place in the way of bikes, looked like junk mainly.
Your typical underfed looking scumbag in his mid 30's approaching people with something you knew he could never have attained through legal channels.
We then about twenty minutes later, saw a man with a young boy who had obviously bought the bike from him.
We knew that someone had had this stolen from them but couldn't think of what to do.
I bet this was that bike.'
Unfortunately the person who spotted this managed to watch the who thing unfold in front of him, without doing anything, at the very least, notifying the police... I'm sure a few of you can guess how I feel about this.
However, this does strongly suggest the bikes are still in Glasgow and they seem to have been stolen by opportunists and not 'professionals'. Please keep an eye out for these bikes in and around Glasgow, and in Glasgow shops. It does seem that the bike has been bought by a youngster potentially looking to get into bike riding/racing.
Cheers
Rab |
| Gordon Goldie |
Posted - 04 May 2012 : 01:09:15
Rab's bike
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556171_10150629791501080_674826079_9522448_728746086_n.jpg |
| terencemcmahon |
Posted - 03 May 2012 : 23:34:13
Sorry to hear that Rab, will post it on some forums... keep an eye out on the Edinburgh & Stirling gumtree sites. Few guys in work had their bikes stolen and they ended up on there a day or so after.
Terence
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