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GAZ
Gaining Speed

103 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  17:19:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys

Fantastic race and great weather.

I need to thank our race sponsor Norrie Drummond for his fantastic support for the Drummond over the 56 year it has been running without a break.

This is fantastic sponsorship and support from just one man / sponsor.
My personal Thanks to Norrie.

I also thank

Marshalls
Commissairs
Car drivers
All helpers

NEG riders who done a fantastic job in sometimes trying conditions.
Cannot do it without you guys.

RESULTS

Drummond Trophy 2012

Place Name Team Category Time
1st Pete Williams Node4 Giordana Racing elite 3hrs 44mins
2nd Mike Northey Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
3rd Evan Oliphant Team Raleigh elite At: 3min .26
4th Ben Greenwood Vanillabikes.com 1st st
5th David Clarke Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
6th Andy Coupe Herbalife-leisure Elite st
7th Matt Holmes Team Raleigh 1st At: 3min .30
8th James McCallum Rapha Condor Sharp Elite At: 7min .21
9th Gary Hand pedalpower-Endura-Forme Elite st
10th Rab Hassan Herbalife-leisure Elite At: 7min .51
11th Bren Townshend Team Raleigh 1st st
12th Ben Dean Team Bglobal 1st st
13th Robin Wilkins Equipe Velo ecosse 1st st
14th Kieren Banlin Vanillabikes.com 2nd st
15th James Sampson Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
16th Veli-matti Raikkonen Granite City RT 2nd st
17th Simon Holt Team Raleigh elite At: 8min .11
18th Kieran Frend Node4 Giordana Racing 1st At: 11min .14
19th Eddie Addis Equipe Velo Ecosse 2nd st
20th Craig Adams GJS Racing team 2nd st

GAZ
www.glenmarnockwheelers.co.uk

Edited by - GAZ on 23 Apr 2012 23:14:49

Jinty H
Speed Merchant

706 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  18:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congratulations to Garry and the team at Glenmarnock Wheelers - time for a drink or two !!

Janette Hazlett
Ivy Cycling Club
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PBPB
Speed Limits N/A

1371 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  18:53:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good day out...well done to all involved...

1st/2nd


3rd/7th


8th/9th


10th/16th


1st Pete Williams


2nd Mike Northey


Cheers Ian
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PBPB
Speed Limits N/A

1371 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  21:18:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wee video of today's race...only stills of the finish I'm afraid due to......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzGh0aFBsAA

Cheers Ian
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loudrider
Crusing Past

215 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  21:37:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heres some more photos from the race today,courtesy of loudoun rc rider john dunlop

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26251151%40N05/sets/
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smacg
Crusing Past

326 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  22:27:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by PBPB[/i]
[br]wee video of today's race...only stills of the finish I'm afraid due to......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzGh0aFBsAA

Cheers Ian



great stuff Ian!!
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Paul H
Gaining Speed

176 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  22:52:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Videos are getting better and better Ian

"Up the Ivy"
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PBPB
Speed Limits N/A

1371 Posts

Posted - 23 Apr 2012 :  09:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
some pics here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianmh247/sets/72157629516067788/

Cheers Ian
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n/a
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531 Posts

Posted - 23 Apr 2012 :  18:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by GAZ[/i]
[br]Guys

Fantastic race and great weather.

I need to thank our race sponsor Norrie Drummond for his fantastic support for the Drummond over the 56 year it has been running without a break.

This is fantastic sponsorship and support from just one man / sponsor.
My personal Thanks to Norrie.

I also thank

Marshalls
Commissairs
Car drivers
All helpers

NEG riders who done a fantastic job in sometimes trying conditions.
Cannot do it without you guys.

RESULTS

Drummond Trophy 2012

Place Name Team Category Time
1st Pete Williams Node4 Giordana Racing elite 3hrs 44mins
2nd Mike Northey Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
3rd Evan Oliphant Team Raleigh elite At: 3min .26
4th Ben Greenwood Vanillabikes.com 1st st
5th David Clarke Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
6th Andy Coupe Herbalife-leisure Elite st
7th Matt Holmes Team Raleigh 1st At: 3min .30
8th James McCallum Rapha Condor Sharp Elite At: 7min .21
9th Gary Hand Pedal Power Elite st
10th Rab Hassan Herbalife-leisure Elite At: 7min .51
11th Bren Townshend Team Raleigh 1st st
12th Ben Dean Team Bglobal 1st st
13th Robin Wilkins Equipe Velo ecosse 1st st
14th Kieren Banlin Vanillabikes.com 2nd st
15th James Sampson Node4 Giordana Racing elite st
16th Veli-matti Raikkonen Granite City RT 2nd st
17th Simon Holt Team Raleigh elite At: 8min .11
18th Kieran Frend Node4 Giordana Racing 1st At: 11min .14
19th Eddie Addis Equipe Velo Ecosse 2nd st
20th Craig Adams GJS Racing team 2nd st

GAZ
www.glenmarnockwheelers.co.uk



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Macbob
Learner

25 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  20:03:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ned Kelly, you are the most annoying poster on this forum !

Who gives a flying fxxx about the results of English riders in a English team .

Please don't get me wrong, I like to hear about how Evan is getting on, but fxxx off with your stupid smiling faces next to English riders.

Sorry about the rant, but really had to get that off my chest

There ya go , I feel much better know

Cheers,

Robert.
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andywoo
Crusing Past

342 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  20:10:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
now....breathe!!!
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Macbob
Learner

25 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  20:25:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Jstew13
Learner

3 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  20:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Macbob[/i]
[br]Ned Kelly, you are the most annoying poster on this forum !

Who gives a flying fxxx about the results of English riders in a English team .

Please don't get me wrong, I like to hear about how Evan is getting on, but fxxx off with your stupid smiling faces next to English riders.

Sorry about the rant, but really had to get that off my chest

There ya go , I feel much better know

Cheers,

Robert.



Whatever your opinion of Ned Kelly he is entitled to show his views and support without your pseudo racist reply. Cycling is cycling who cares if riders are English, Scottish or Ghanaian, I hardly think putting a smiley next to English riders name in the Braveheart forum merits that sort of response. It is quite frankly an embarrassment.
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frenkmcginty
Speed Limits N/A

1355 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  21:25:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think you'll find that this description of ned has just been made once,by you macbob.if you look over some older topics you will find that i have been called this on 147 occasions and i'm therefore a more deserving title holder.......ps ..i'm a big fan of bradley wiggins ........frenk
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Macbob
Learner

25 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  21:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jstew13[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Macbob[/i]
[br]Ned Kelly, you are the most annoying poster on this forum !

Who gives a flying fxxx about the results of English riders in a English team .

Please don't get me wrong, I like to hear about how Evan is getting on, but fxxx off with your stupid smiling faces next to English riders.

Sorry about the rant, but really had to get that off my chest

There ya go , I feel much better know

Cheers,

Robert.



Whatever your opinion of Ned Kelly he is entitled to show his views and support without your pseudo racist reply. Cycling is cycling who cares if riders are English, Scottish or Ghanaian, I hardly think putting a smiley next to English riders name in the Braveheart forum merits that sort of response. It is quite frankly an embarrassment.



Get yer heid out yer backside mate, and cheer up for fxxx sake, your taking life far too seriously.

Please remember y've posted oan the BRAVEHEART forum which in case y,ve forgot is primarily to promote young SCOTTISH riders and provide news about the SCOTTISH scene.








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PBPB
Speed Limits N/A

1371 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  21:57:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Macbob, Ned is trying to be annoying...if you get annoyed...he wins!...

Freud would have had a theory on this, if they had had internet forums back then!...

Anyhow, if he is such a big Evan/Raleigh supporter, how come he wasn't down at the Drummond cheering them on!?

Cheers Ian

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Macbob
Learner

25 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  22:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well we all know that Ian, but for christ sake,there's only so much a man can take .

His bro-mance with Evan is understandable, a mean look at the legs oan him phooarr , but love of the english oan here is just too much for me personally, my daily fix of the Braveheart postings and SCOTTISH racing results and subseqent discussions is being ruined.







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Jstew13
Learner

3 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2012 :  23:07:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Macbob of course you are right, and I hope you rebuke any mention of Cavendish, Wiggins, Thomas or indeed almost anyone else in the entire pro peloton with the passion you have shown here. This is after all a forum to air views and discuss only Scottish cycling in a fxxxing friendly environment, chapeau my man. Perhaps in future results should be posted with riders of nationalities other than Scottish omitted?

Apologies GAZ, brilliant event well done to you, your team and everyone else involved. It was wonderful to see that level of racing brought to Scotland while still keeping it open to those of us who are not quite elite, bravo.
Just one small query, will full result be made available? Just to see how us meer mortals compare.

Cheers, James
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Jinty H
Speed Merchant

706 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2012 :  14:15:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/scotland/article/sc-20120425-scottish-cycling-news-Drummond-Trophy-race-0

Full results available on this link ..

Janette

Janette Hazlett
Ivy Cycling Club
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andyr
Crusing Past

323 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  09:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jinty H[/i]
[br]http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/scotland/article/sc-20120425-scottish-cycling-news-Drummond-Trophy-race-0

Full results available on this link ..

Janette

Janette Hazlett
Ivy Cycling Club



Good to see a full listing of all finishers available via that link for a race where just completing the course is an achievement.
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mudplugger
Setting Off

52 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  11:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by andyr[/i]
[br]
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jinty H[/i]
[br]http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/scotland/article/sc-20120425-scottish-cycling-news-Drummond-Trophy-race-0

Full results available on this link ..

Janette

Janette Hazlett
Ivy Cycling Club



Good to see a full listing of all finishers available via that link for a race where just completing the course is an achievement.



...but is that not a definition of a sportive, where riders test themselves against the course and distance rather than "race" against other paricipants. The time gaps are very large. Are people in the right "race"?
Think this links to a number of threads currently running re race formats, equality of fields, acceptance procedures, large numbers of DNFs etc
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Joe 90
Learner

29 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  12:21:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

...but is that not a definition of a sportive, where riders test themselves against the course and distance rather than "race" against other paricipants. The time gaps are very large. Are people in the right "race"?

It felt like a race, not one i had any chance of winning but then that's the same for most people in most races. It maybe stopped feeling like a race after the second time over the long climb but up until then it was a fairly big bunch going at a decent pace. The problem for most people, myself included,was just the speed up the climb not the climb itself. The only way selection policy could have leveled the field would have been to remove the elites, but then the continental teams being there was part of the attraction to most of the field.

I disagree that finishing is an achievement, Im sure everyone who signed on could have finished, but then whats the point if you get dropped on the first lap? Its maybe not the sort of race I'd want to ride every weekend, and its not really a possibility with the organisation required to marshal a 43 mile loop. But people got dropped due to the speed not the distance in the majority of cases.

If you want to see bigger bunches maybe look at the course. Anyway race, sportive or somewhere in between it was a good way of spending a Sunday.
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flyingscot
Setting Off

97 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  12:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to see 16 year old Junior Calum Foster Team Leslie Bike Shop/Right Move Windows in 35th Place, great result.
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jinty H[/i]
[br]http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/scotland/article/sc-20120425-scottish-cycling-news-Drummond-Trophy-race-0

Full results available on this link ..

Janette

Janette Hazlett
Ivy Cycling Club

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scooper
Gaining Speed

175 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  17:34:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Joe 90[/i]
[br]
...but is that not a definition of a sportive, where riders test themselves against the course and distance rather than "race" against other paricipants. The time gaps are very large. Are people in the right "race"?

It felt like a race, not one i had any chance of winning but then that's the same for most people in most races. It maybe stopped feeling like a race after the second time over the long climb but up until then it was a fairly big bunch going at a decent pace. The problem for most people, myself included,was just the speed up the climb not the climb itself. The only way selection policy could have leveled the field would have been to remove the elites, but then the continental teams being there was part of the attraction to most of the field.

I disagree that finishing is an achievement, Im sure everyone who signed on could have finished, but then whats the point if you get dropped on the first lap? Its maybe not the sort of race I'd want to ride every weekend, and its not really a possibility with the organisation required to marshal a 43 mile loop. But people got dropped due to the speed not the distance in the majority of cases.

If you want to see bigger bunches maybe look at the course. Anyway race, sportive or somewhere in between it was a good way of spending a Sunday.



Agreed, as one who was dropped early on through a mechanical, speed was most definitely the deciding factor. If i'd not had a mechanical i dont mind admitting that i would probably not have lasted the full duration "at that speed" anyway. But it is still a useful excercise to go and race these guys to put your own fitness into perspective. One look at the quality of the DNF's should speak volumes.

Not sure making the course easier would lead to a bigger bunch finish though, remember the top guys were going that speed because the course was hard! if it was easier then it would be even faster, scary i know.......
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snoeasy
Crusing Past

412 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  19:33:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you do not race against the top level week in week out then you have very little chance of being able to stay with them round the Galston. But if the race was on the Falkirk circuits then you would have had a better chance. That course is tough and the boys that were in the top 15 or so would have had a hard "race", the rest of the field would just have had a hard day because of the course. If you want to compete against the top boys you will need to go south and race with them on a regular basis just to improve your horizons.Its not that the riders up here are less talented its just that there are not enough of them.
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n/a
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531 Posts

Posted - 28 Apr 2012 :  13:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Helped Evan since he was 14

Helped Dave Clarke When he was 15
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